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posted by [personal profile] potted_music at 10:59am on 01/06/2012
I'm reading The Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller (this year's Orange prize winner, no less), and I cannot quite shake the feeling that it is a text of distinct fandom provenance. Where else would a smattering of added romance be accepted as a lofty reinterpretation of a source text? (I'm at chapter 8 at the moment, so she might yet add something more substantial to the The Iliad, but nothing so far: and it's not like Achilles/Patroclus is exactly a new and shocking supposition, right?) In the spirit of shippy goggles, all the justification their romance needs boils down to aesthetic observations of the Mills&Boons variety: "when our eyes held, I felt a shock run through me," "the cold shock of his beauty" & "hair lit like honey in the sun, and within it, glints of gold." Add Patroclus's conflict with his father that would be familiar to anybody with the most fleeting exposure to fanon!Draco, and you'll understand why this novel reads as any fandom classic (and not the freshest one at that).

Also, the era is described with all the anvilicious elegance as an 8-yo boy is made to make the following pronouncements: "They might permit a king to burn their fields or rape their daughters, as long as payment was made. But you did not touch a man's sons ... We all knew the rules; we clung to them to avoid the anarchy that was always a hairsbreadth away," or "In our day, death was preferable [to exile]." One might imagine an 80-yo speaking of "In our day," but somebody 10 times younger?

So, about The Song of Achilles's earlier reincarnation as fanfic: am I right, or am I right?
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posted by [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist at 04:07pm on 01/06/2012
It certainly sounds as if you're right. I suppose the sense of mingled dislocation and annoyance I feel at this sort of thing -- dammit, couldn't you mainstream people have seized on a *good* example of our culture to celebrate? why a mediocre one?? -- is what members of other cultures feel at the general American tendency to pick things up and incorporate them into our own general culture, willy-nilly. And I have and will continue to defend that sort of cultural appropriation (what else are we supposed to do? it's not as if we have a culture made up of non-appropriated elements; not to mention the fact that while it may be more obvious with American culture than with most others, probably every culture on earth that has ever been in contact with another does some of this; and blah blah), so I have no business complaining about it here. And yet, and yet.

But I take some comfort in the critical reception of Wolf Hall. Which may not come out of a fandom culture, but is nevertheless totally fanfic. And it's excellent fanfic, not just the fic the mainstream happened to stumble upon first.
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posted by [personal profile] potted_music at 01:37pm on 02/06/2012
That's an excellent parallel, explaining how much (completely ungrounded) proprietary exasperation I feel towards this book :) Fandom sometimes does subtle interpretations of source texts (some of which are even in the public domain, and could be played with legally), and all that seeps into the mainstream is badly-written erotica (50 Shades), or mushy Mills&Boon-type stories. I hope these are the first examples to come to mind only because grotesque texts with overdone tropes are more recognizable than better works?

I have not yet read Wolf Hall (but it is on the to-read list, because I've read some of Mantel's short stories, and she seems brilliant): what qualifies it as fanfic?
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posted by [personal profile] phoebe_zeitgeist at 05:25pm on 02/06/2012
Ah, I see that you have so far escaped my Wolf Hall babbling! Allow me to rectify that immediately.

The striking thing about Wolf Hall, at least to me, is that it's a work that relies for its full impact on the reader's familiarity with a certain specific canon: in this case, a segment of Tudor history. The fact that it is a chunk of history de-geeks it to some extent -- after all, it's perfectly respectable and not too geeky to have some background knowledge about the reign of Henry VIII, and the religious reformations and political upheavals that accompanied and were the background for his changes of wives. It's an episode in English history that has enough draw that many straight historical novels have been written about it, and many readers have at least some rough familiarity with the big names of the era -- Thomas More, Henry himself, Ann Boleyn, all the usual suspects.

Which obscures the fact that if you don't already know this stuff (and know it reasonably well), a lot of what Wolf Hall is doing will be incomprehensible. In fact, I'm not sure it would even make sense if you started it without knowing the basics of canon. Mantel uses a classic fandom trick -- she takes the usual villain as her viewpoint character -- and she uses our knowledge of the canon to give us context for what he does and observes. Part of the pleasure of the book (though by no means the only one) is that particular piecing together of a new narrative from what's not explicitly included in Wolf Hall, but that a reader knows is there, filling in with her own knowledge of the canon. Mantel doesn't do any of the traditional historical-novel work of explaining background or history or social structure to the reader: it's not the kind of popular historical where a reader can go in knowing little or nothing about a place and time, and emerge feeling as though she's learned some history. (Which is something that can be done well or badly, obviously. It's just, that's what your normal historical novel does, almost by definition.)

I think it's for the most part evaded recognition as fanfic, or discussion of it as fanfic within the community, because it doesn't use any of fandom's big emotional tropes. It's not a Mills&Boone romance. It's not full of hurt/comfort, or yearning, or UST. But as a matter of literary form, well, there are reasons it reminded me, more than anything else, of [personal profile] b_hallward's YnM work.

And on the mainstream side, you see it in the way the critics are grappling with it. It's a bit more palatable with Wolf Hall than with The Song of Achilles, though, because with Wolf Hall they at least seen to be aware that there's something alien about it. They know it's an amazing book, and say so, but they don't quite know what to make of it, or what it's doing, or how it works, and in at least one case (the New Yorker review, which I'll try to find the link for), they even seem to be aware of the fact that they don't quite get it.

ETA: On re-reading this, I see that I've failed to make any of the points I intended to make, or if I have, it's glancingly and by accident. I hope the core of the argument -- that it's a work that consciously relies on and requires the reader's knowledge of canon for its effects -- comes through, but for the rest I fear I'm going to have to apologize for going all around my points without ever quite hitting them, and try again when my brain is being more cooperative. I hate it when this happens.
Edited (To apologize for incomprehensibility) Date: 2012-06-02 05:45 pm (UTC)
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posted by [personal profile] potted_music at 07:02pm on 04/06/2012
No need to apologize for incomprehensibility, that was perfectly succinct: and, indeed, that is what I would describe as a more interesting side of fannish texts too. Alas, that also makes me fully enjoying Wolf Hall somewhat unlikely: while I can, so to speak, rattle off the bare bones of facts about the era, my knowledge is not even wikipedia-level. I'm sure that I will enjoy her outlandish similes (the things she does with imagery! From her short story "Comma:" "had placed on her rat-tails a twisted white ribbon; by afternoon it had skewed itself around to the side, so that her head looked like a badly tied parcel"), but the finer points of twisting the historical facts will probably be beyond me. Thanks for the warning though, I'll make sure that I read some textbook or something before I delve into the novel.

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